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	I'd welcome any views on this subject from the private or public sector please.
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	I'm a landscape architect working in the public sector and our council is currently dealing with a lot of applications for solar farms.  In the LVIAs that support these applications we regularly see that the existing hedgerows are often (correctly) identified in the baseline assessment as providing 'screening' or 'filtering views' of the site from the wider landscape.  The visual impact of the proposal is then based on the screening provided by those hedgerows in their existing condition. 
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	However, the condition (and height) of the hedgerows will change over time, depending on what stage of the management regime is being carried out (and that information is not provided at application stage so is unknown).  In almost all cases, the Landscape Strategy simply includes the statement 'hedgerows to be managed to 3m'.  Presumably, as the developer understandably wishes to limit and control shading of solar panels.  In some cases though, the existing hedgerows are 7m high, so to reduce them to 3m might significantly open up views into the site, having the opposite effect to that described in the LVIAs visual assessment and actually increasing visual impacts.
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	I'm interested to hear views from both sectors as to where in the LVIA the <u>future</u> and <u>ever changing</u> condition is accounted for the in the LVIA process.  Solar farm applications are now regularly for 'temporary' permission lasting 50 years and in that time the hedgerows being relied upon for visual screening will need all sorts of management approaches.  We surely should all understand that hedgerows cannot be held at a static height or condition.  They will cyclicly need coppicing and/or laying for instance, which would remove any visual screening ability for many years. If they really were 'managed to 3m' every year for 50 years (flailed?) they'd eventually just die off.  This would not only increase the visual impact of the development on the wider landscape but also lead to a worrying loss of historically characteristic and ecologically valuable hedgerow networks.
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	<strong>Where</strong> is hedgerow management accounted for in the assessment process and <strong>how</strong> ought it rightly be accounted for by practitioners carrying out these LVIAs do you think?
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	Thoughts very welcome!
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	Welcome some feedback here ... 
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	I am in the process of reviewing an LVIA (well, TVIA I suppose) and in 2 of the photomontages (Type 4 rendered photomontages) as well as inserting the scheme, they have 'edited' the  photograph to remove some clutter associated with highway works in the foreground of the photo.  I have challenged this, as I believe that they should not be photoshopping base images - it undermines them (how do I know they haven't also tweaked the trees etc) they say it is perfectly acceptable as the roadworks are temporary and block some features of the scheme.  I suggested a better approach would be to refresh the base image as roadworks now long gone, but they are refusing.   
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	Thoughts?  
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	I have been discussing with a senior member of the LI what might constitute "low-hanging fruit" that could improve our use of GLVIA 3 without requiring its complete replacement.   One of the things that seems immediate is what is the difference between a stand alone LVIA that accompanies a planning application from those that are a part of a formal EIA?  This is a matter considered on pages 4 - 9 of the Ed3 and the distinction that emerges is one of terminology and purpose.  I think most practitioners are aware of the differences behind the use of such terms as "impact", "effect" and how we are not to use the term "significance" out with an EIA and so use the term "importance", but I doubt we have thought through the implications of having a methodology for use in an EIA that we then use in a non EIA report.
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	In an EIA, according to Ed3, the defining requirement is set out in the European Union Directive  2011/92/EU <em>The assessment of the effects of certain public and private projects on the environment.  </em>Obviously, since Brexit the overarching legislation has had to be turned into UK law and so the relevant legislation is the Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 2017.  But the intent is largely the same and that is (to quote Ed3), 2, "...t<em>he emphasis is on the identification of <strong>likely significant</strong> environmental effects."</em>  The implication of this is that there are insignificant environmental effects and this is made clear in para 1.17 of Ed3:
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	<em><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">"The<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">Directive<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">is<span> </span>clear<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">that<span> </span>the<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">emphas</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#777777;" xml:lang="en-us">i</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">s</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">is<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">on<span> th</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">e</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">identification<span> </span>of<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">likely<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">significant<span>  </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">env<span>i</span>ronmenta</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">l<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">effects.<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">T</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">his</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">should<span> </span><span>em</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">b</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">race</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" 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xml:lang="en-us">ficial</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">nd</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">negativ<span>e</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">/</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a<span>d</span>verse, <span><span> </span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">direct <span><span> </span></span><span>a</span><span>nd</span> <span><span> </span></span>indirect, <span><span> </span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">and <span><span> </span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">long<span> </span><span>and</span><span> </span>short<span> </span>term,<span> </span>as<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">well<span> </span>as<span> </span>cumulative<span> </span><span>eff</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">e</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">cts.</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">Identifying<span> </span>significant<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">effects<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">stresses<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">the<span> </span>need<span> </span>for<span> </span>an<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">approach<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">that<span> </span>is<span> </span><span>i</span>n<span> </span>proportion<span> t</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;font-size:11.5pt;" xml:lang="en-us">o<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">the<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">sca</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">le</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">of<span> </span>the<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">project<span> </span>that<span> </span>is<span> </span>being<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">ss</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">essed</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">nd</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">the<span> </span>nature<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">of<span> </span>its<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">likel</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">y<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">effects.<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">Judgement<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">needs<span> t</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;font-size:11.5pt;" xml:lang="en-us">o<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">be<span> </span>exercised<span> </span>at<span> </span>all<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">stages<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">in<span> </span>terms<span> </span>of <span><span> </span></span>the<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">sca</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">l</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">e</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"><span>  </span>of<span> </span>investigation <span><span> </span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">that <span><span> </span></span>is<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">ppropriate<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">and<span>  </span>proportionate.<span> </span>This<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">does<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">not<span> </span>mean<span> </span>that<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">effects<span> </span>should<span> </span>be<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">ignored<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">or<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">their<span> </span>importance<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">minimised<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">but<span> t</span>hat<span> </span>the<span> </span>ass<span>e</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">s</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">smen</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">t<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">should <span><span> </span></span>be<span> </span>tailored <span><span> t</span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;font-size:11.5pt;" xml:lang="en-us">o<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">the<span> </span>particular<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">circumstances<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">in<span> </span>each<span> </span>case.<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">T<span>h</span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">is<span> </span>applies<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#1a1a1a;" xml:lang="en-us">to<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">'appra</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">isals'<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">of<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">landscape<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">nd</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">visua<span>l<span> </span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">impact<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">o<span>u</span>tside<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">the<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">formal<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">requirem</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#5b5b5d;" xml:lang="en-us">e</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">nts<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">of<span> </span>EIA<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">as<span> </span>well<span> </span>as<span> </span>those<span> </span>chat<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">a</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">re</span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">part<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">of<span> </span>a<span> </span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#2d2d2d;" xml:lang="en-us">forma<span>l <span><span> </span></span></span></span><span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">assessment."</span></em>
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	<span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">Hence the use of EIA screening, in which the significant areas of effect are agreed with the lpa; and in this process what "significant" means will be based upon professional judgement, lpa or public concerns and, ultimately, case law in planning in which the term "significance" has been tested.</span>
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	<span lang="en-us" style="color:#444444;" xml:lang="en-us">But what is to underpin the definition of that which is important in an informal non EIA LVIA?  Obviously, part of it will be professional judgement and lpa or public concerns.  However, there is no underpinning as to what any of our synonyms in place of significant (such as "important") actually means.   I think this is where NPPF (and its equivalent documents in the devolved nations) comes into play.  Such planning policy guidance should be able to give each practitioner a framework in which to make judgements.  Clearly, it will not do all the heavy lifting, but it could give us all a dimension to work in and so avoid the proclivity to merely personal feeling.  Some landscape architects feel that their personal views are the same as professional views, but they should not be.  Landscape and visual impact issues are as important in a planning matter as society thinks: no more; no less.  The professional view requires an understanding of the site but also an understanding of the societal context in which we are expected to work.</span>
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	<font color="#444444">There is no reference to NPPF in Ed3 because they were both being written at the same time and the writers of the latter were unaware of the content in the former.  But I note with some satisfaction that paragraph 1.5 on Ed3 specifically refers to "planning policy guidance" as being part of the framework within which EIAs are written; and I take this to be a validation of my point.</font>
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	<font color="#444444">The easy hanging fruit would be to make explicit that NPPF applies to both EIA and non EIA LVIAs; and then to develop some Technical Notes on how that document affects what we do.</font>
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	A number of people (myself included) applied to join the GLVIA Panel following the LI call for two new members.  I have been told a vote was taken on who from the applicants should be elected to the panel and that I failed, which is fair enough.  But thinking about this further, the lack of any knowledge of the process is disrespectful to members who stood and the lack of transparency makes the very idea of an election questionable. 
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	So can I ask the following:
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	Who stood; who was elected; who voted; what was the voting system; and given that there was no attempt to organise hustings for the candidates, how on Earth were the voting decisions made? I cannot be the only candidate who did not know anyone on the panel.
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	I asked informally for this information and was told the information was in some way impossible to release without breaching the privacy of other candidates.  That doesn't make any sense to me.  So I would be grateful if others who stood would also ask the Institute for clarity.  Secret elections vitiate the point of elections.
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	We have recently published the results of the GLVIA survey we ran back in September. They can be found here:
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	<span style="font-size:11pt;"><a href="https://www.landscapeinstitute.org/technical/glvia3-panel/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.landscapeinstitute.org/technical/glvia3-panel/</a></span>
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	<span style="font-size:11pt;">Thank you to all those who responded. We are incredibly grateful for the feedback.</span>
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	The LI are always interested in hearing from members and this time we need your help with a short <a href="https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/8L82SCJ" rel="external nofollow">survey</a> on GLVIA3. This will close on 17th September, so please, if LVIAs are part of your work, let us know what you think!
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	<a contenteditable="false" data-ipshover="" data-ipshover-target="https://connect.landscapeinstitute.org/index.php?/profile/90-rebecca-knight/&amp;do=hovercard" data-mentionid="90" href="https://connect.landscapeinstitute.org/index.php?/profile/90-rebecca-knight/" rel="">@Rebecca Knight</a> and I will also promote it via our website and newsletter.
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">The following is an article on GLVIA3 that I wrote for the July edition of Landscape Matters.<span>  </span>I am keen to encourage positive debate on why and how our profession carries out landscape and visual impact assessments.<span>  </span>I welcome any comments from colleagues on the issues raised.</span></i>
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	<b><span style="font-size:12pt;">GLVIA and the Louse</span></b>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">There has been a lot of discussion within the profession this last twelve months on the methodology and purposes of ‘Guidelines for Landscape and Visual Impact’ 3<sup>rd</sup> edition – GLVIA3 to those who use it a lot; the purple book to some. The Institute held a webinar in December 2020 and Landscape Matters held a Teams discussion in February 2021 that I helped organise. Both were recorded and are available via the following links: the December 2020 Webinar is at <span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://www.landscapearchitecture.org.uk/glvia-guidelines-for-landscape-and-visual-impact-assessment/" rel="external nofollow"><span style="color:#000000;">http://www.landscapearchitecture.org.uk/glvia-guidelines-for-landscape-and-visual-impact-assessment/</span></a>; and the LI discussion can be seen on <a href="https://youtu.be/o7j2sxfEHRY" rel="external nofollow"><span style="color:#000000;">https://youtu.be/o7j2sxfEHRY</span></a></span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">It’s fair to say that some people think the Third Edition, first published in 2013, is superannuated and work should begin now on a Fourth. Others think it is fine as a guide and all that is required is its correct use. The profession appears to be divided with, at least, a substantial minority in favour of change; and there does not appear to be any intent to begin work on a revision of the GLVIA text as it stands. I think the text is dated and ambiguous, I so I am uncomfortable with this apparent stalemate. I know the text is always under review, but I feel the effectiveness of this “Whack-a-mole” approach to individual problems is waning.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">One of the features of the debate that has always struck me is its largely introspective nature. It seems to be one in which landscape architects speak, in the main, to other landscape architects about their concerns on the method and purpose of landscape and visual assessment. This is proper up to a point: after all, we do the work and write the reports. But what about those who have to use our work? I would guess that almost all LVIAs are prepared to assist in the formulation of planning decisions and plan-making; both of which are the work of other professions. What do they think about the many pages of text, plans, photographs and figures that we produce?</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;"> It was to get away from this introspection that I asked Landscape Matters to host a debate in which one of the contributors was a planning barrister - Charlie Banner QC of Keating Chambers. Being on the outside looking in, he was able to see our work<span>  </span>in the round and in relation to the purposes of planning law. It was so startlingly original a point of view that, seeking last month to find a constructive way forward, I went back to him and asked if he would conduct a straw poll amongst his colleagues in the profession on their opinion of GLVIA3. I thought if the most insightful people involved in the planning debate were happy with the product of GLVIA3, then perhaps I should swallow my personal concerns. But judging from the opinions Charlie received, it turns out I am not alone in thinking it is time to reform and re-write.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">The following statements are drawn from the responses of seven planning barristers, five of whom are QCs, and they are members of five planning chambers. Although I make no pretence of this being a thorough poll of the profession, their comments make<span>  </span>sober reading for all of us who have a bit of professional amour propre. Some of the comments are brief; a number develop their ideas; one sets out his concerns in detail.<span>  </span>I have not altered any of the statements; nor have contacted any of the barristers to press a point of view. They asked to remain anonymous - though I know who they are - so, with a nod to Quentin Tarantino, let’s call them Mr White, Mr Orange, Mr Blonde, Mr Pink, Mr Blue and Ms Brown. Charlie Banner’s comments are identified, for these are the opinions he gave in his paper at the Landscape Matters discussion in February this year. <span> </span><span> </span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">All but one would like to see the document substantially revised, and Mr Pink gave the pithiest summation of its defects:  </span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘My view is that it is pretty hopeless because it seeks to impose a methodology which is largely meaningless.<span>  </span>An LPA witness always can justify a case however poor and give it the badge of legitimacy that the assessment is GVLIA compliant.<span>  </span>It should be much firmer and much more objective frankly</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;">.’</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Ouch! There it is in-toto: a meaningless methodology producing a document capable of suiting any case; something loose that is too subjective. Methodology is, of course, the point of having a GLVIA; and the distinguishing feature of all the editions since the first in 1995 is the rise of the matrix; the development of the concepts that form the x and y axes; and discussions about what the nine (or twelve) resultant hierarchical indicators of significance can mean. </span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">We think that by using matrices we are being rigorous. But our efforts do not command the respect we hope for. Mr Blue described the product of GLVIA3 thus:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘My thoughts are far more radical.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I have long held the view that GLVIA (in its successive editions) is pseudo-science and overly complicates what surely should be pretty straightforward judgment-calls concerning landscape and visual impact.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">The fact that a whole industry of vested interests has built up round the “methodology” tells me that something is very wrong – as soon as simple things become the property of those in the know then it’s time to become iconoclastic.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">“GLVIA-babble” as I call it, I try my utmost to ban it from evidence and ask my landscape / visual impact witness to write up their evidence in a jargon-free matrix-free manner – it’s hard work and occasionally I get there!  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">So rather than tinker, I’d put the book on the bonfire, but I know I’m a lone voice on this.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">This comment was seen by Mr White, who promptly replied:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘Not a lone voice.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I completely agree.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I largely ignore it all.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I find a simple pithy phrase like “developed countryside” or “deep countryside” is much more effective.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Pseudo-science: is this fair? No one can deny that we are dealing with a complex subject. The word “landscape” contains ideas of perception, history, identity, culture, and requires an eye for understanding spatial forms and patterns as well as the knowledge of physical qualities of the earth such as topography, geomorphology, vegetative cover, usage and movement. It is to our credit that we try to organise our thoughts with comprehensible notions that are capable of being defined, analysed and discussed; and I think we do this to a very high technical standard and the best of the profession is able to explain why we respond as we do to what we see when we venture out into the physical world.<span>    </span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">It is when we try to answer questions about change that we seem to run into trouble. Often you will see at an appeal two landscape architects making fundamentally different judgements about the effects and significance of change; and the singular distinguishing difference of their respective positions will be that one is paid by the proposer of the development, and the other is paid by the local authority or the pressure group opposing. This in itself would not be bad if the arguments were about the analysis of survey information or the design of a proposal, or the options for mitigatory and compensatory proposals: all of which you see in ecology evidence. But it always comes down to methodology: which box the matrix places the scale of significance, and the judgement – good or bad; positive or negative; beneficial or adverse. This does not reflect well on the profession for it makes us look like hired guns prepared to act as advocates for a case, for a sum. I have even come across a case where a major, national, engineering consultancy, conducting a GLVIA 3 assessment of suitable housing sites around a town in England, recommended a site as suitable when commissioned by a housebuilder and then, three years later, carrying out a similar exercise for the local planning authority, again using GLVIA3, concluded the same site was unsuitable. The overt link between the payer and the song does our profession no good whatsoever; and it is the looseness of our standard text that enables this to happen.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Mr Orange seized on this point in his critique of GLVIA3:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘However its lack of a prescriptive (or even recommended) methodology means that LVIAs may be transparent, but rarely comparable, and the scope for argument over what are essentially judgmental issues is absurdly high. For example:</span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>(i)<span>            </span></span></span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">A lack of a proper yardstick - </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I repeatedly come across LVIAs which put the impacts of the development of a peripheral greenfield site adjacent to a 20<sup>th</sup> century in the top category of significance. This cannot rationally be right – surely that category would be confined to an open cast mine in an AONB. Yet the response is that it is for the assessor to undertake a bespoke methodology – which all too often means pitching it too high or too low;</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>(ii)<span>          </span></span></span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">A failure to properly define terms </span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>-<span> S</span></span></span><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">urely the Institute could define terms for the use of assessors which are clear, for example, ‘significance’ as a term is applied in multiple different ways both in the grading of an outcome of an LVIA and a threshold as to whether effects ‘count’ in terms of EIA. Surely the judicious use of a thesaurus could avoid confusion;</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>(iii)<span>         </span></span></span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Mitigation </span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>- </span></span><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">In ecology there is a clear distinction between mitigation and compensation – even in GB terms we now talk about compensation for GB loss. Yet the 3<sup>rd</sup> edition doesn’t deal with developing one parcel of land and ‘compensating’ for the loss by improving other areas, such as the creation of country parks, restoration of hedgerows etc. It feels as if landscape is about 15 years behind other areas.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">In any event the lack of a clear methodology means that how mitigation is dealt with and ‘fed in’ to an assessment is at the discretion of the assessor reducing the comparability of LVIAs. Surely a ‘this is how it’s generally done’ methodology and if you deviate justify why would help.</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><span>(iv)<span>         </span></span></span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Who is responsible for what - </span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;"><i>I tire of the number of times that LPAs don’t agree (or even do agree) simple things like methodology and views and then they become an issue at inquiry – either because it helps an argument or because a new professional has been appointed. </i> </span><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">A section which says what is expected and what should be agreed would be transformational. That could be done in the manner that a Transport Assessment is done – a scoping exercise (methodology, representative viewpoints, time of year, whether montages are needed etc) could be prepared and then agreed before the LVIA is finalised.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">The PPG could then pick up the consequences of not submitting/agreeing basic things as a costs issue.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">What Mr Orange is pointing to is our lack of some generally accepted calibration of the criteria for judgement. Surprisingly, given the circumstances in which almost all LVIA reports are commissioned, GLVIA3 makes no attempt to relate its terms or bases for judgement to the planning context in which these reports are to be considered.<span>  </span>The justification for this is given in the preface to the third edition, which states that it <i>‘…seeks to avoid reflecting a specific point in time, recognising that legislative, statutory and policy contexts change so that guidance that is tied to contexts will quickly become dated and potentially out of step.’</i> But that is to ignore the fact that behind planning policies in England lies a National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) that says important things about the environment, the countryside, landscapes, landscape value, Green Belt, etc. that are intended to inform both plan-making and planning decisions.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">This is not planning policy so much as the stuff from which policies are made; and we can expect it to have a life that can run comfortably with renewed editions of the guidelines text. I think the reason why it is not mentioned in the third edition has more to do with the contemporaneous writing of the first NPPF with the drafting of GLIVIA3, but whatever the reason, to claim that ignoring the NPPF is a virtue for our methodology is preposterous for it leaves a vacuum in place of a shared perspective or “a common yardstick”. This is where GLVIA 3 calls for the professional to use “personal judgement”, but all too often it is the brief that you have from your client that shapes the point of view. This is the enabler that makes it possible for two landscape architects to claim compliance with GLVIA3, arrive at completely different judgements, and then proceed to slag off the opposite view by criticising their methodology. The experience is distasteful for those who have to suffer it; boring to those who have to listen or read the attack; and it besmirches our reputation as a profession. We need a common yardstick, and that has to come from national policies and guidance of which the NPPF is one in England (another is the draft National Model Design Code, whose consultation stage was published in February 2021). It seems to me that from such documents we may be able to form a set of parameters to inform and guide judgement.<span>  </span>We should at least try to form some common ground for making our judgements, with a remit determined by planning law and guidance.<span>  </span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">At the heart of this matter is the judgement of development on ‘greenfield’ sites.<span>  </span>Like Green Belt, the term greenfield is prejudicial because it conjures up positive image of fertile, natural worlds that often do not match the chemically addicted, shaved monocultures of much of modern farming. It dismays me that there is an emphasis in the LVIA process on concluding with a series of emphatic judgements.<span>   </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;">Charlie Banner put it thus:</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;"> </span><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘Herein lies the main difficulty I have seen with how GLVIA3 is applied in practice.</span></i>  <i><span style="font-size:12pt;">The way it is applied by most landscape professionals and decision makers (PINS Inspectors and LPA officers), any new built form on greenfield land will be deemed adverse in landscape character terms (due to the ‘loss’ of rural or similar character) and to the extent that it is visible, it will be deemed to cause an adverse visual effect (because visible built form is to be introduced where none currently is).</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Accordingly, the assessment which is intended to inform a decision not as to whether greenfield development is in principle good or bad, but whether this is the right amount and kind of such development in the right place, is focused on considering: how much of a bad thing is this? If this is how GLVIA3 is to be applied, there is a mismatch between the methodological framework within which the landscape assessment is to be undertaken and the policy framework within which the decision which that assessment informs is to be undertaken.</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">It may be said in response that GLVIA3 does in fact permit decisions that landscape and visual changes are beneficial or neutral, rather than necessarily negative. Thus in relation to landscape character para. 5.37 provides: </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘One of the more challenging issues is deciding whether the landscape effects should be categorised as positive or negative. It is also possible for effects to be neutral in their consequences for the landscape. An informed professional judgement should be made about this and the criteria used in reaching the judgement should be clearly stated. They might include, but should not be restricted to: </span></i>
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	<i><span>• The degree to which the proposal fits with existing character </span></i>
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	<i><span>• The contribution to the landscape that the development may make in its own right, usually by virtue of good design, even if it is in contrast to existing character.’</span></i>
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	<i><span>And in relation to visual effects, para. 6.29 provides: </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘As with landscape effects an informed professional judgement should be made as to whether the visual effects can be described as positive or negative (or in some cases neutral) in their consequences for views and visual amenity. This will need to be based on a judgement about whether the changes will affect the quality of the visual experience for those groups of people who will see the changes, given the nature of the existing views.’</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">In practice, however, any prospect that these paragraphs will enable new housing development on a greenfield site to be judged beneficial, either in relation to landscape character or in relation to visual effect, is largely if not wholly illusory. Neither paragraph offers any steer on how the effects of such development could be judged to be positive (or neutral) and the reality is that the overwhelming majority of landscape professionals and Planning Inspectors I have encountered would consider that new built development does not ‘fit with existing character’ of a greenfield site (and thus cannot be positive or neutral in landscape character terms applying para. 5.37) and that it negatively ‘affects the quality of the visual experience’ compared to an unbuilt green field<span>  </span>(and thus cannot be positive or neutral in terms of visual effects applying para. 6.29).’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Clearly, there are cases when development would have significant adverse landscape and visual effects, but GLVIA3 does not give us an effective gauge by which we can sort the wheat from the chaff.<span>  </span>Can it ever be the case that building homes on farm fields next to existing homes can be judged at a planning stage as being a change that will be a<span>  </span><i>‘permanent, major, adverse effect’”</i> on local landscape character, irrespective of how it is done? How could anyone think this is possible, let alone write it? The presumption reeks of hubris on a massive scale, and seems to me a statement that is simply intellectually impossible to justify.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Mr White wrote about a scheme that he had been personally involved, where: </span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘I got the council’s witness to agree our development had the potential to be beautiful. An unqualified beautiful.  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">But of course the GLVIA had my witness having to admit all kinds of moderate-minor adverse impacts. Because GLVIA largely assumes new development is bad</span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;">.’ </span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">We do not live in a Manichean world in which all change is either good or bad.<span>  </span>Some change is just change, neither good nor bad. With antecedents that include EIA legislation, I understand the imperative in LVIA work to seek out whether or not proposed changes to the environment will result in significant harm. But landscape is not like air, or water, or soil chemistry or biology, each of which can identify harm to that which makes our environment liveable and sustainable. Judgements about landscape are nuanced and, although they can give rise to considerations about the sustainability of a proposed change, this is not always the case. Nor are most LVIAs part of a larger EIA. </span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Perhaps we should be giving some thought to the role of a Landscape Architect when called upon to write a LVIA for planning purposes? What are we supposed to be doing?<span>  </span>In Mr Orange’s opinion,</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘Anyone who has ever been to an inquiry would realise that there is a confusion over what a landscape architect’s job actually is. Thus, does her/his work inform the planning balance or determine it (how many proofs by such professionals end by asking for the appeal to be allowed/dismissed). There is confusion over whether such work should encompass heritage, ecology, detailed policy analysis, public opinion, map regression, townscape morphology – which is all good work for the lawyers but a failure of the 3<sup>rd</sup> edition not to be clear.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">This was seconded by Mr Blonde:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘I agree with </span></i><span style="font-size:12pt;">[Mr Orange]<i> that the role of the landscape witness is often unclear. A case in point is the approach to Green Belt. Since <span>Turner </span>and <span>Sam Smith</span>, landscape experts have been opining on the impact of development on the visual dimension of openness. This often creates confusion about whose ‘job’ it is to assess different impacts. Greater clarity in GLVIA on the landscape witness’ role and the relevance of GLVIA guidance would help.’</i></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">I remember this was a cardinal point raised by Charlie Banner QC in the Landscape Matters debate:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘… it is necessary to appreciate what the purpose of LVA/LVIA is. The assessment is not an abstract academic exercise. Its purpose is to inform a decision. In the context of greenfield residential development, that decision – stripped to its essentials - involves answering the question I outlined a moment ago:<span>  </span>is this the right amount and the right kind of development on the right greenfield site? (Not: is greenfield development in principle good or bad).’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">There were some points of support for GLVIA 3. Mr Orange commented: </span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘Compared to the GLVIA 2<sup>nd</sup> edition (the blue book), having the 3<sup>rd</sup> edition is a substantial improvement. Where it does provide guidance then it is helpful (eg the approach to private views/value etc)…’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Which is good; but as Ms Brown noted there are still problems with how the book is written and she suggested that only a small part of its 157 pages is important:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘I’m planning on writing a piece in due course - a treatise in defence of the purple book! … I find it makes for a lot of fun cross examination, there are about 5 pages that actually matter, and inspectors don’t seem terribly interested. There seems to be less and less interest in landscape, perhaps because it’s become over-complicated?  </span></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">I’m definitely not in the bonfire camp - I’m far too attached, but there are most certainly improvements to be made. I think it could be done in about 12 pages.’ </span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Mr Blonde noted a problem with the use of language: </span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘If it is meant to assist non-professionals in understanding LV effects then it has demonstrably failed. A plain English summary or companion guide would help.<span>  </span>There is an inconsistency in terminology, which could be fixed by a clear and easily understood glossary.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">And Mr Orange returned to the idea of the imbalance between those parts of GLVIA 3 that regularly appear in inquiries and those that do not:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘My perspective is partial – I deal with advisory work and appeals usually when there is a dispute, but it is nonetheless striking that large chunks of the purple book are never referred to, whereas a dozen key paragraphs are referenced over and over again. I know that the 2<sup>nd</sup> edition was authored by professionals who were regularly at inquiry, I don’t know if that’s the case for the 3<sup>rd</sup> edition. However, why not have a chapter on appeals which picks up what the job of the professional is at inquiry – if nothing else it will reduce the impression that is all too often garnered that a landscape professional (on either side) is acting as a hired gun to advocate a case…’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">These recommendations are sound and they point to a need for something that is much leaner, clearer, less hung about with jargon, and which recognises the need for LVIAs to be something more than a litany of matrices. I particularly like the suggestion of a chapter on the role of the landscape professional in an appeal. Mr Orange continued with a brilliant piece of advice that should be taught on landscape design courses:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘For my part I tell the landscape architects to dump all of their pseudo-science into an appendix and write their proofs as if they were explaining their impacts to my mother (a noted non-landscape architect).’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Or, in a more prosaic version, do what Mr Blonde recommends:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘I’ve taken on board the GLVIA 3 recommendation to follow a more narrative approach to landscape/visual impacts but with greater and lesser degrees of success. I also tend to invite my landscape witnesses to ditch matrices or confine them to the darkest recesses of their appendices.’</span></i>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Though much of this makes uncomfortable reading, and some of the comments point to a possibly growing dislike and contempt of our posturing, I am heartened that there is a recognition of the improvement between GLVIA2 and GLVIA3 and an acknowledgement that the third edition urges a more narrative approach.<span>  </span>They just feel the need for us to go a bit further in improving our words, purposes and methods.<span>  </span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">Of course, the above statements are the opinions of just a small number of planning barristers; and a random sample of a few is hardly authoritative. But the sample includes some names that would be recognised by any who regularly work on planning appeals. They do not like what they see, nor do they entirely believe in what we write; and they either have doubts about our methodology, or hold it in plain contempt. If such views are commonly held by the wider pool of planning barristers, or by planners and planning inspectors, then we have a problem, and no grounds for complacency.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:12pt;">I am reminded of Burns in his pew, regarding the airs and graces of Jenny, a fashionable young lady who was evidently very pleased with how she looked, dressed in her fineries, but who had a louse on her bonnet:</span>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">‘O Jenny, dinna toss your head,</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">An' set your beauties a' abread! </span></i>
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	<i></i><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Ye little ken what cursed speed </span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">The blastie's makin: </span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Thae winks an' finger-ends, I dread, </span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">Are notice takin.</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">O wad some Pow’r the giftie gie us</span></i>
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	<a rel=""><i><span style="font-size:12pt;">To see oursels as others see us!</span></i></a>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">It wad frae monie a blunder free us</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">An’ foolish notion:</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;">And ev’n Devotion!’</span></i>
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	<i><span style="font-size:12pt;"> </span></i>
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